Louise Thomas

Notes:

1898 BIRTH: UT,Cache-Paradise: Louise Thomas was born 1 Apr 1898; blessing 5 June 1898 by J. P. James [from Pat Holling]

1900 CENSUS: UT,Cache Co-Paradise Prec: Anc.com Img 3, pg 2A, 2 June, Dw 25/25: Louisa Thomas age 2 born Utah April 1898, daughter of William and Rosara Thomas

1910 CENSUS: OR,Clackamas Co-Bullrun Prec: Anc.com Img 6, pg 313, 24 April, Dw 62/64: Louise Thomas age 12 born Utah, daughter of William H and Rosarah Thomas

1920 CENSUS: OR,Multnomah Co-Portland,Prec 167: Anc.com Img 10, pg 5B, 8 Jan, Dw 96/129-595 E Oak St: Louise Thomas age 21 born Utah, steno at book store, daughter of Rose Thomas, widow

1928 MARRIAGE: OR,Multnomah-Portland: Louise Thomas md Ralph Erwin Ranck 6 June 1928

1930 CENSUS: to get

Christmas card - no year shown, from Uncle Ralph: "Louise has Alzheimers."

1946 HISTORY: CA,Los Angeles Co-Los Angeles: Obit of mother Dec 1946: "...Survivors include...Mrs Louise Ranck, and Mrs Evelyn Billingsley, both of Los Angeles..."

1950 HISTORY: OR,Multnomah Co-Portland: Obit of brother, Harold, Nov 1950: "Survivors are... seven sisters... Mrs. Louise Ranck... of Los Angeles..."

1986 DEATH,BURIAL: CA,Los Angeles-Glendale: Louise Thomas Ranck died 14 April 1986 in Glendale,Los Angeles,California; buried Forest Lawn Cemetery, Glendale CA

LOUISE (THOMAS) RANCK
[1898 - 1986]
Written by : Ray Ranck


Louise Thomas was born on April 1, 1898, in the northern part of Utah inthe small town of Paradise in Cache county. Her father was William HenryThomas who was from Pembroke in the southwestern part of Wales. Louise'smother's name was Rosara Obray. Although Rosara was born in Paradise,Utah, her father was also from Pembroke, Wales and her mother fromManchester, England.

Louise was the eighth child in a family of ten children, which includedseven girls and three boys. The sisters remained very close to oneanother through out their lives and were continuously writing, talking onthe telephone and visiting each other through the years.

Louise's father, William , owned and operated a lumber mill thatmanufactured wood shingles and was very successful in his business untilthe mill caught fire and burned to the ground. In those days in thatarea there was no such thing as insurance, so this was a major crisis forthe young family.

William tried other work including delivering the mail. His route wasin the rural countryside which included some very rough and remote areas.One morning in the late fall, he left to make his deliveries in one ofthe more remote areas and by mid afternoon a blizzard descended. Bynightfall he had not returned by his family was not worried because onother similar occasions they knew that he had spent the night with thefamilies to which he was delivering the mail and then would return homewhen conditions would permit. However, William had already made hisdeliveries and was on his way home when the blizzard started. It hit soquickly and was so severe that it produced a complete "white out" wherehe could see nothing and soon he was lost and finally collapsed in thesnow. Meanwhile at home, one of his sons awoke from a sound sleep with astrong foreboding that his father was in grave danger and in need ofhelp. He woke the family and convinced them that immediate action wasneeded. A search party was formed of family members and friends and theyset out to find the missing man. At first light of day they found him.With him was his faithful dog which had laid on him throughout the nightand provided the warmth which allowed him to survive. However, due tosevere frost-bite, several toes had to be amputated and from that timeforward he always walked with a slight limp.

Due to the injury to his feet, Louise's father William was no longerable to walk long distances and so he gave up his mail delivery job andcontemplated what other work he could do to support his family. Hedecided to return to the work he knew best - lumber milling. However, todo this he needed to move to where there were mills and thus he moved hisfamily to Oregon.

Louise would tell the story of when she was young, about the littlelambs which the family would have each springtime and that she and hersisters would love so much. They were so cute and playful the girlswould make pets of them. However they always wondered where the lambswould disappear to later in the year. A few years later she found outthat that's what they were eating for dinner. After that she never feltthe same about lamb chops.

Louise wrote the following about her early years:

"We lived in Paradise, Utah until I was about nine years old. I startedto school there. We moved to Oregon. My father was a lumberman and wewent to a saw-mill town by the name of Dee. The school there was not avery good one and I got a very bad start in school. One teacher for alleight grades. There were about forty children and the teacher could notdo justice to us all, although she tried. The start I got there made itvery hard for me all through school.

From Dee we moved to another little saw-mill town by the name of BullRun, Oregon. I remember when my Grandmother Obray came to see us shesaid, "It's too bad the Bull didn't run a little farther and run rightoff the face of the earth!" We all laughed and thought she was veryright. Here in Bull Run the school was worse. My father and brothersworked in the mill while mother and we girls ran the "Cook-House". Weall worked very hard.

From there we moved to a little town by the name of Troutdale, Oregon.Still another small school with only one teacher for about sixtychildren. From there we moved to Portland, Oregon and my first goodschool. I had a very hard time but managed to graduate from the ninthgrade. I then went to Lincoln High School. I went there two years. Ithen went to Business College. When I finished the business course I gota good job at the J.K. Gill Co. working for the grandest boss, Mr. EdwardDrake. He was like a father to us all. This is where I worked untilafter I was married.

It was grand to live in a big city. I enjoyed the church (Church ofJesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints; also known as Mormon) activities somuch. We hadn't had the opportunity to go to a big Church since we leftUtah. Although there were a few Latter-Day Saints in the lumber townsthere was not an L.D. S. Sunday School there when we moved there. Mymother and some of the good L.D.S. mothers got together and had theMissionaries come to Dee and organize our first Sunday School. We did agood missionary work there. Then at Bull Run she did the same thing. Mymother was a very spiritual woman; the most courageous , faithful, lovingmother one could ever have. She wanted her children to be raised in theChurch and when there was no Church she saw to it that there was oneorganized. She did a wonderful missionary work and lived very close toGod. She made a home for many people and fed the poor and helpedeveryone. She was so good to the Missionaries. She fed them and gavethem a word of encouragement when they needed it. I have met many whohad been Missionaries in the Northwest who remember her and all praiseher name. God bless her memory. She died on her birthday Dec. 6th, 1946at the age of eighty-one.

While we lived in Bull Run my dear brother Harold went on a ChurchMission to the Northern States. He was a good man and we all loved himvery much. Mother and all of us worked very hard to keep him on hismission. While we lived in Troutdale we ran a café. When Harold camehome he helped Mother with us all. We were all very close to each other.One would go to business college and when that one was out he or shewould get a job and help the next one through.

My father died January 25th, 1915 in Paradise, Utah. He had been verysick for a long time and Mother thought if he could get home to some ofthe good doctors who knew him they could help him. So he went back toParadise, but he died there. He was a good man and I loved him. He wasgood to the poor and good and kind to us all. He wasn't as spiritual asmy mother, but he always went to Church with us. I know he is preachingthe Gospel in the Spirit World. He came to my mother and told her not toworry about him as he was sanctified and glorified and was preaching theGospel to the spirits in the Spirit World. This makes me so happy. I amso thankful to my Father in Heaven that my parents were married for timeand all eternity, so we will all be together for always.

When we first went to Portland, Melvon J. Ballard was the MissionPresident and how we all loved him. He was always my inspiration. Heloved my mother and helped her with her large family in giving her adviceand spiritual aid. We had a big home and when the Mission Home was fullof Missionaries and running over, the Missionaries were sent to our hometo stay for a few days. We surely had good times. They called our housetheir second home."

Throughout her life Louise not only remained active in the Church butalso served in many different Church jobs including teaching the childrenin Sunday School, working in Mutual (organization for teenagers), being aStake Missionary (Elysian Park Ward, Glendale Stake, California) andGenealogical secretary for the Hollywood Ward in California.

Louise had a very strong belief in her Religion, which she stated asfollows: "I love the gospel and know it is the true gospel of JesusChrist and is the same as he taught while he was here on earth. I knowthat he is the son of the Living God, that he came to this earth and wascrucified for our sins. I know that Joseph Smith Jr. was and is aprophet of God sent to this earth in the fullness of time to restore thetrue Church of Jesus Christ. For this testimony I am so thankful to myHeavenly Father. It means more than anything else in my life. I amthankful for my good husband and my good children and my grandchildren.I love them with all my life. In fact my life is my Church, my familyand my home."

"I had lots of nice boy friends when I was a girl. Boys in the Churchand out. I thought I was in love many times but when I met my dear RalphErwin Ranck I knew I had never been in love before. I had always beenvery prayerful and I had prayed to my Heavenly Father to send me a goodMormon boy with whom I could go into the Temple and be married for timeand all eternity. When I met him I knew he was the one for me."

As mentioned above, Louise's sister Evelyn met Erwin at Church one dayand brought him home for dinner where he met Louise. They wereimmediately attracted to one another and over the next few weeks becamequite close. Louise would often tell the story of how she first gotErwin to kiss her. She felt sure that he loved her but also knew that hewas very shy, so the first move would be up to her. One day after dinnershe asked Erwin to help with washing the dishes. She told him that shewould tie an apron around him so he would not get wet. But instead oftying it from the back she stood in front and with her arms around himtied it from the front. While doing so she looked straight up into hisface and that is the story of how the first kiss came about.

Erwin and Louise were married in Portland, Oregon on June 6, 1928.

Louise married Ralph Erwin Ranck 6 Jun 1928, Portland, Multnomah, Oregon, United States. Ralph was born 29 Aug 1904, Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States; died 26 Sep 1996, Fullerton, Orange, California, United States. [Group Sheet]

1. Maxeen Ranck was born 25 Jul 1929, Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States; died 25 Jul 1929, Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States; was buried Jul 1929.
2. Living
3. Ray Erwin Ranck was born 7 Apr 1936, Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California, United States; died 23 Jan 2004, Fullerton, Orange, California, United States; was buried 31 Jan 2004, Riverside National Cemetery,Riverside,California, USA.

Notes:

1860 BIRTH: SoWales,Pembrokeshire-Neyland: William Henry Thomas born 22 April 1860 [Neyland, also called New Milford, was a seaport village in Llanstadwell Parish, Pembrokeshire]. William H Thomas blessed 1 Jun 1860 by Thomas E. Jeremy

1862 HIST,MIGRATION: Utah,Cache Co-Paradise: Pat Holling, PAF CD July 2003-obit from Logan Herald Journal: "He came to Utah with his parents in 1862 and they located in Paradise."

1868 HIST,RELIGEON: William H Thomas baptized 13 July 1868 by A.O. Joel - The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

1870 CENSUS: UT,Cache-Paradise: Anc.com Im 243 pg 121, Dw# 34/33: William H Thomas age 10 born Wales-at home, son of William and Elizabeth Thomas

1880 CENSUS: UT,Cache-Paradise: FHL film 1255335 pg 172c,4 June,ED 10, Dw# 82/87: H William Thomas age 19, born Wales-single, at home, son of William N and Elizabeth Thomas

1884 HIST,RELIGEON: Pat Holling, PAF CD July 2003: "William H Thomas re-baptized & confirmed a member by Orson Smith 24 Mar 1884 - The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

1884 MARRIAGE: UT,Salt Lake-Salt Lake City: William Nash THOMAS md Rosara Obray 3 Apr 1884 in the Endowment House [Pat Holling: 3 Apr 1882 SL]

1900 CENSUS: UT,Cache Co-Paradise Prec: Anc.com Img 3, pg 2A, 2 June, Dw 25/25:
THOMAS, William-head 40/Wales born Apri 1860 (Wales,Wales) md 16yrs-
manufacturer; Rosara-wife 35/UT born Dec 1864 (Wales,Eng) md
16 yrsm 8/8 children living; Elizabeth-dau 14/UT born Dec 1885-at
school; William O-son 13/UT born Apr 1887; Lorenzo-son 12/UT
born Apr 1888; Harold-son 10/UT born Jan 1890; Caroline-dau 8/UT
born Feb 1892; Martha J-dau 6/UT born Mar 1896; Ada-dau 4/UT
born Apr 1896; Louisa-dau 2/UT born Apr 1898

c1907 HIST: 1915 Obit, Herald Journal of Logan UT: "...Eight years ago he had his feet frozen and parts of them had to be amputated..."

1910 CENSUS: OR,Clackamas Co-Bullrun Prec: Anc.com Img 6, pg 313, 24 April, Dw 62/64:
THOMAS, William H-head 50/Eng (Eng,Eng) md 1x 26yrs-engineer Tigh mill;
Rosarah-wife 45/UT (Wales,UT) md 26yrs, 10/10 children living;
William-son 24/UT (Eng,UT) timberfeller-Tigh Mill; Lorenzo-son
22/UT, laborer-Tigh Mill; Harold-son 20/UT, laborer-Tigh Mill;
Caroline-dau 18/UT; Jennie-dau 16/UT; Ada-dau 14/UT; Louise
dau 12/UT; Evelynn-dau 7/UT; Larue-dau 5/UT

1915 HIST: Utah,Cache-Logan: Pat Holling, PAF CD July 2003: Article in Herald Journal of Logan UT, 23 January 1915: "Mr Will Thomas a brother of Messrs JR & DH Thomas of this city is here from Oregon in search of medical treatment. He is said to be a very sick man." [JR Thomas = James Richard Lallis Thomas; DH Thomas = David Hyrum Lallis Thomas]

1915 DEATH,BURIAL: Utah,Cache Co-Paradise: William Henry Thomas died 25 Jan [Mon, obit says Sat, which would have been 23rd] of cancer of stomach; buried Paradise Cemetery [27th,Wed or 29th,Fri, like obit said?].


Harold Pierce Thomas and Peggy 7 July 2008: book Wm Henry pg1-2: father: Wm Henry Thomas,f.Wm Mark Thomas; m-Elizabeth Lallis, bn 24 Mch 1860, Neyland Pembroke S Wales, blessed 1 June 1860 by Thos E Jeremy,bapt 13 Jul 1868 by A O Joel; confirmed 24 Mar 1884 by Orson Smith, Elder 24 Mch 1884 by Orson Smith, End 3 Apr 84 SL End H, Seal or md 3 Apr 84 by O H Wells,dd 25 Jun 1915 of cancer of stomach, Paradise UT
Mother: Rosarra O Thomas f-Thomas L Obray,m-Ruth Bradshaw,bn 6 Dec 1865 Paradise,bles 6 Jun 1867 by T L Obrayson [son?], bapt 28 Mar 1884[6] by Orson Smith, confirm 28 Mar 1884[6] by Orson Smith; End 3 Apr 84 SL End H, seal or md 3 Apr 84 by O H Wells
Children: Elizabeth O Thomas f-Wm H Thomas m-Rosara O Thomas,bn 31 Dec 1884 Paradise,bles 5 Feb 85 by S Oldham
Wm O Thomas bn 19 Mch 1886, bles 3 Jun 86 by S Oldham, Deacon 11 Feb 1902 by S Oldham, 11 Feb 04 Zid Olsen
Lorenzo O Thomas bn 9 Apr 88, bls 3 May 88 by H C Jackson, Deacon 10 Jan 03 by Zid Olson
Harold O Thomas bn 20 Jun 1890,bles 3 Apr 90 by John Welsh, Deacon 11 Feb 04 by J L Price, Endow 29 Mar 1911 Logan T, dd 18 Nov 1950 Portland OR, Lincoln Mem Park
Caroline bn 29 Feb 92, bles 6-5-92 by Zid Olsen;
Martha Jane bn 20 Mch 94, bles 3 May 94 by Zid Olsen;
Ada O bn 6 April 96, bls 4-6-96 by Zid Olsen;
Louisa bn 1 Apr 98, bls 5 Jun 1898 by J P James;
Evelyn bn 1 July 1901, bls 3 Aug 1900 by J P James;
Laur[a or u] bn 16 May 1905, bls 2 Jul 1905 by S Oldham.

William married Rosara Bradshaw Obray 3 Apr 1884, Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States. Rosara (daughter of Thomas Lorenzo Obray and Ruth Nuttall Bradshaw) was born 6 Dec 1865, Paradise, Cache, Utah, United States; died 6 Dec 1946, Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States; was buried 8 Dec 1946, Paradise, Cache, Utah, United States. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

1865 BIRTH: UT,Cache-Paradise: Rosara (Rosarah) Bradshaw Obray was born 6 Dec 1865, dau of Thomas Lorenzo Obray & Ruth Nuttal Bradshaw, known as Rose; blessed 6 Jun 1867 [frm bk

1966 RELIGEON: UT,Cache Co-Paradise: Rosara O Thomas was blessed in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints by T. L. Obraysen

1884 MARRIAGE: UT,Salt Lake-Salt Lake City: Rosara Obray md William Henry Thomas 3 Apr 1884;

1886 RELIGEON: PAF CD from Pat Holling July 2003: Rosara O Thomas was baptized [re-baptized?] and confirmed a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints on 28 March 1886 by Orson Smith

1920 CENSUS:OR,Multnomah Co-Portland:Anc.com Img 10,pg 5B,8 Jan,Dw 96/129-595 E Oak St:
THOMAS, Rose-head 53/UT (Wales,Wales)widow; William O-son 35/UT (UT,UT)
divorced-auto machinist; LaVon W WRIGHT-son/law 24/UT (UT,UT) no occ;
Ada WRIGHT-dau 24/UT; Louise THOMAS-dau 21/UT-steno book store;
Evelyn-dau 17/UT-no occ; La Rue-dau 14/UT; Keith M SORCHER-brdr
20/MICH 9OH,MICH) single

1930 CENSUS:OR,Multnomah Co-Portland:Anc.com Img 7,pg 295,7 Apr,Dw 87/100-260 1/2 E 30 St:
THOMAS, Rose-head 64/UT (Wales,Eng) widow, renting [$30] no occ;
Evelyn-dau 27/UT, single clerk at creamery; LaRue-dau 24/UT
single steno at court house

1946 DEATH: UT,Salt Lake,Salt Lake City: Rosara Bradshaw Obray Thomas died on her birthday, 6 December 1946


1962 HIST: of close friend of family, Frank Pierce: from a funeral program: "In Memory of Frank Edmond Pierce, born: Nov 18, 1879 - passed away: July 3, 1962. Services at Ross Hollywood Chapel, NE 48th & Sandy Blvd, Friday July 6 at 11:00 am... vault interment: Sunset Hills Memorial Pk"


ACTION - CK OUT - Rosara Obray Thomas:
1. BIR,MG,DTH: Records of Emma J Facer and Robert P Wagner [who Emma Facer?]

Notes:

1835 BIRTH: South Wales,Pembrokeshire,Haverfordwest-Merlin Bridge: William Nash Thomas was born 24 Feb 1835, son of David Thomas & Elizabeth Nash

c1841-1844 HIST: History of William Nash Thomas [autobiography], in his handwriting: Attended school, then quit to buy clothes and was then self-supporting.

c1847 HIST: At 12 yrs, job with billiards hall, working for Mrs Potter and worked for a year. After that, went back to school and worked for various people.

c1849 HIST: So. Wales,Glamorganshire-Neath: 14 yrs, to work 80 mi from home, billiards hall at Castle Hotel, worked 2 yrs.

c1851 HIST,RELIGION: So. Wales,Pembrokeshire,Haverfordwest: Some of Wm's family joined The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Wm investigated, found doctrine in harmony with scriptures, baptized 26 March 1851 by John Griffiths. Traveled with brethren in ministry.

1857 HIST: Wm's family moved to Neyland. Wm worked at a locomotive dept of Great Western Railroad Co & presided over Pembroke Branch of the Church 1857-1862; emigrated to America.

1857 MARRIAGE: S WALES,Pembrokeshire-Haverfordwest: William Nash Thomas md Elizabeth Lallis 26 Oct 1857, 3 children in Wales: John Edward, William Henry, Heber Charles [died, "buried Llanstadwell church yard March 17, 1862"]

1862 EMIGRATION: Wm emigrated to America on 9 May 1862, leaving Liverpool on William Tapscot 15 May 1862. (Very pleasant time most of way but had very heavy storms at times. Prayer, testimony meetings. Room 2nd deck - 800 people on ship, crew included. 2 deaths.
Landed at Castle Garden, NY Thursday June 26, 1862... left NY Friday eve over Hutson River RR, arrived Albany... took NY Central Train to Niagra Falls..., then Great Western Canada Train to Win...? traveled on boat to Detroit... took Michagan Central to Chicago-1st of July, then Quincy by the Chicago Burlington & Quincy... then by boat on Mississippi to Hanibal... left that eve for St Joe MO... steamboat to Florence, NEB...sun so hot, river water thick with mud, very warm; plenty of ice cold water for crew but none for Mormon Emigrants... 1 death on boat.
Landed Florence NEB, took bagage ashore in dark, lay around best cd on morning of 7th, moved abt 1 mile to camp, beautiful day, but before got campfire, rain poured in torrents, wind blew, thunder roared, lightning flashed. It blew 1 wagon over, killed Br Joseph W Young, blew down store fronts, 2 men were killed by lightning; all soaked, cleared after an hr, dried clothes, got tents pitched, soon comfortable. Stayed in Florence until 7 Aug, loaded into wagons-18 ea wagon, 12 ea tent. Wm & wife walked all way across plains, very pleasant in consideration; abt 12 deaths... buried as soon as died or at next stopping place. Very good caption, Orton Haight; able boys & men took turns guarding stock & camp. No murmurings or quareling to speak of - had a common purpose in gathering to Zion. Waded thru cold rivers of Elkhorn, Platt, also Green River...
Arrived Salt Lake City 19 Oct. Br John Isaac met & brought cake & milk-always remember with kindness... Salt Lake City nearly 3 wks, worked City Creek Canyon getting fire wood, sold for molasses.
Went to Paradise, Cache Co, arrived 11 Nov 1862; next day helped thrash; spring of 1863 Wm got a city lot & planted, also built good log house before winter; Nov 1864 our first daughter born, Sarah Jane (md JP James).

c1862 HIST: A History of Paradise,Cache Co UT 1860-1999, by Elizabeth Allen, pg 34: "As early as 1862, missionary calls were received to send teamsters back to Florence, Nebraska, to help bring immigrants across the plains. Many of the Paradise pioneers participated in these callings: ... William Nash Thomas... The person called was usually required to furnish the oxen or horses and wagon, and the community or ward provided the supplies. In some cases supplies were picked up in Salt Lake City, from Church headquarters."

1865-1873 HIST: History of Wm N Thomas cont'd pg 11: "1865 son James Richard born. Sept 1866 Wm's father David Thomas arrived Paradise, mother died March 1866 at Neyland, Pembroke, S Wales, buried at... burying ground. Father in good health, worked hard until spring of 1873 - fell & burst blood vessel - died Nov 4, 1874, buried Paradise.
Oct 1866 grasshoppers came in millions, ate everything green; laid eggs in ground; spring, grain up; they hatched, ate, cont'd 3 yrs; scarce time with many poor, but Wm's home had plenty of food. Nov 1867 dau Elizabeth Ann born (md H. A. Shaw). In fall settlers of old Paradise, since called Avon, moved as a body abt 3-1/2 mi north of old site - get more room.
Summer of 1868... Wm's sister Jane Jones & family came to Paradise; stayed with them winter. Nov 11, 1868 Wm, wife & sev others to SLC - endowments, with ox teams, very wet trip. Some worked when CPRR built.
1869 Wm got ties & timbers for construction of UT Central RR - from Ogden to Salt Lake City. Nov 20 son David Hyrum born.
1870 & 1871 Wm worked in canyon & farming.

1870 CENSUS: UT,Cache-Paradise: Anc.com Im 243 pg 121, Dw# 34/33:
THOMAS, William 35/Eng-farmer; Elizabeth 32/Eng; John E 12/Wales-at home;
William H 10/Wales-at home; Sarah J 6/Wales-at home; James R 4/UT
at school; Elizabeth 2/UT; David 7/12-UT

1872 MARRIAGE #2: Hist of Wm N Thomas cont'd pg 14: "On Jan 1, 1872, I married Mary Jane Obray, dau of George & Marcia Obray, born Pembroke So Wales. Sealed by I Havills ?? at Endowmnt House in Salt Lake City July 1..."

1872-1876 HIST: Hist of Wm N Thomas pg 14: Wm ran engine sawmilling in mtns abt 30 mi east of Paradise. Aug 2 son Joseph Parly born. Same fall Wm bought shingle mill at Paradise, began making shingles April 1873.
Nov 25, 1873 son Alma Phillip born. Aug 17, 1873, son Willard Evan born. In June Wm took charge of building a saw mill for people of Paradise, also running same until fall of 1876... "

1874 CITIZENSHIP: Certificate of Citizenship, copy in possession Robert P Wagner: "Be it remembered that on the 22nd day of April, 1874, William Thomas late of Wales, in the Kingdom of Great Britain at present of Cache County in the Territory [of Utah at top] aforesaid...applied to become a citizen of the United States of America.... And the said William N Thomas, having... produced to the Court such evidence... said William N Thomas be admitted... to be a citizen of the United States of America. In Testimony whereof, the Seal of the said Court [3rd Dist Court] is hereunto affixed this 22nd day of April 1874, and in the year of our Independence the Ninety-eighth, signed Jos. F Novanan, Clerk."

1874-1882 HIST: A Hist of Paradise...pg 35: "On May 16, 1874, Elder Brigham Young, Jr., President of Cache Stake, visited Paradise and organized a branch of the United Order with Bishop David James, President... William Nash Thomas, Director. Nothing was ever done under the organization. In 1878, instructions were received from the Church authorities that all the people of the ward over the age of eight were to be re-baptized into the United Order...all the members were re-baptized in the Little Bear River."
Pg 170: "On March 1, 1875... [after] the people of Paradise petitioned Cache County Commissioners for the establishment of an Irrigating District [in 1874]... the petition... was granted. On August 7, 1876, the following Irrigating Trustees were elected: ... William Nash Thomas... Trustees were empowered to issue water rights for new city lots...
Pg 210: "In 1875, William Nash Thomas operated a water-powered sawmill in the Paradise City limits. The water was supplied for the sawmill from the Hyrum Canal. This sawmill was located in the hollow just south of the old Johnnie Thomas home on the north edge of Paradise. A new sawmill was built in 1890 near the old site and was operated with the same waterpower as the old one. He also operated a shingle mill where shingles were made from balsam trees for the first Paradise church building. The shingle mill was located west and north of the sawmill. The shingle mill also used water from the Hyrum Canal. Robert Baxter of Hyrum purchased the sawmill and moved it to the old gristmill site where the Hyrum Dam now stands and began operating it in 1895.
In 1880, William Nash Thomas went to Beaver Canyon, Idaho, where he purchased a steam sawmill and supplied the Union Pacific Railroad with lumber, and in 1882 he erected another sawmill to meet the greatly expanded demand for building materials."

1876- HIST: Hist of Wm N Thomas pg 15: Summer 1876 Wm built a sawmill in connection with making shingles in Paradise, also purchased quarter section of land; at home sawing lumber, RR ties & shingles.
June 9, 1878 dau Dorothy Minnie born (md Fred Whittle). Dec 4 son Orson born.

1880 CENSUS: UT,Cache-Paradise: FHL film 1255335 pg 172c,4 June,ED 10, Dw# 82/87:
THOMAS, William N-self 44/Wales (Wales,Wales) md farmer; Elizabeth-wife 41/Wales
(Wales,Wales) keep house; E. John-son 22/Wales (Wales,Wales) single-work
saw mill; H. William-son 19/Wales-single, at home; J Sarah-dau 16/UT-single
school; R James-son 14/UT-school; A Elizabeth-dau 12/UT-school; H Daniel-son
10/UT; Joseph-son 8/UT; Alma-son 6/UT; Nathan-son 4/UT; Minnie-dau 2/UT;
J. Mary THOMAS-wife 40/Wales (Wales,Wales) keep house;
Willard-son 6/UT; Orson-son 1/UT

1880-1887 HIST: Hist of W Nash Thomas pg 15: "June 1, 1880 Wm purchased steam saw mill at Beaver Cannin, ID, sawing with 2 steam mills until 1886. On Aug 13, 1880 I had a son born but died without being named. It was buried at Paradise. On Nov 2 1881 my son Evan was born and died Jan 11, 1882 was buried at Paradise. On March 8, 1883, my daughter Sarah Jane was married to John P James (son of David and Annie P James) at Salt Lake City by Daniel H Wells... On April 4, 1884 my son John Edward was married to Annie Obray and same day and place, my son Wm Henry was married to Rosezarra Obray at Salt Lake City by J H Wells. On March 30, 1887 my daughter Elize Ann was md at Logan Temple, by N C Edlofson, to Harry Albert Shaw of Paradise..."

1887 HIST: A History of Paradise... pg 199: "The Mormon practice of plural marriage, commonly polygamy, was publicly accounced by the Church in 1852 and was practiced by many of the Paradise pioneers... They believed with all their hearts that this principle was true and correct so they participated in plural marriage with a willing mind and heart. From a wordly standpoint plural marriage must of necessity be a trial. To live it one must sacrifice much of life's real romance and face the sharing of love and affection...
On March 3, 1887, Congress passed the Edmonds Act, which put more pressure on the Church to give up the practice of polygamy... Prosecutions began in 1887... many served time in prison for unlawful cohabitation... Others who practiced polygamy but were not arrested were: ... William Nash Thomas."

1888-1897 HIST: Hist of W Nash Thomas pg 16: "On Oct 10,1888 my son James Richard was md at Logan Temple, by M W Merrik, to Martha M Bickmore of Paradise.
[p 17] On Oct 3, 1888 I went to Salt Lake Conference, took sick next day with pneumonia. They did not expect me to live on the fifth day & sent for Brothers L E Jeremy & Wm White to administer to me. So great was my faith that I got healed, got out of bed, put on my clothes & next day took a carriage ride...
On Sept 10, 1891, my son David Hyrum was md at Logan Temple by... to Catherine Thatcher of Logan.
During the money panic of 1892-1893, the lumber business was forced to go to a receiver and I lost $20,000 in that concern... losing every dollar I owned... had to assign all of my property... merchandise...myself and wife run the store in J E Thomas name... successful in the store, kept one son on a mishen for 27 months...
On Feb 13, 1895, my son Joseph Parley md at Logan Temple by... to Sarah Ann Davis of Logan... Nov 1895 I was elected a member of the city counsel... 1st prec of Logan for 2 yrs... following Nov elected Justice of the Peace for Logan Prec, commencing Jan 1 1897 for 2 yrs.
15 Apr 1897, taken sick with same viris [as 1888]... was healed in same manner.
Nov 1899 elected Justice of Peace for Logan, commensing Jan 4, 1900 for 2 yrs.

1900 DEATH of wife: Hist of Wm N Thomas pg 20: "Mary Jane Obray died on Jan 23, 1900... buried at Paradise."

1900 CENSUS: UT,Cache Co-Logan, N.A. film T623 film 1682 Bk 1, pg 254  THOMAS, William N 65/Wales-Feb 1835, general merchant; Elizabeth L-wife 62/Wales-
Dec 1837; Nathan 24/UT-Feb 1876, Student-College; Dorothy M 21/UT-June
1878, Clerk in Store

1900- HIST: Hist of W Nash Thomas pt 17: "On March 22, 1900 my son Orson was md at Logan Temple by... to Elizabeth James of Paradise. On June 10, 1902, my daughter Dorothy Minnie was md at Logan Temple by... to Frederick Whittles of Richmond. On Dec 10. 1902, my son Nathan Albert was md at SLTemple by... to Beatrice Cristman of Salt Lake City.

1901 DEATH of wife: Hist of Wm N Thomas pg 20: "On the 19th of May 1901, my wife El;iza Lallas died at Logan and was buried at Paradice May 21..."

1902 HIST: Hist of Wm N Thomas pg 20: "On 15 Aug 1902 I sold out my mercantile business... preparing to go to Wales to get genealogy of parents and their ancestors.

1907 HIST: A History of Paradise... pg 39: "A prayer circle was organized in the ward on May 12, 1907... The following brethren composed the circle:... William Nash Thomas... The room on the south side of the building was dedicated for the purpose... The organization was disbanded on Jan 1, 1911..."

1920 CENSUS: UT,Cache-Paradise: Anc.com Im 5/12, ED 17, page 3A, Jan 13-14, Dw# 48/54:
JAMES, John P-head 57/UT (Eng,Eng); Sarah J-wife 56/UT (Wales,Wales); Annie
dau 21/UT; Clara-dau 18/UT; THOMAS, William N-wife's father 84/Wales
(Wales,Wales) widowed*

1923 DEATH,BURIAL: UT,Cache Co-Paradise: William Nash Thomas died on 14 Feb 1923; buried 17 Feb at Paradise.



ACTION - CK OUT - William Nash Thomas:
1. Born Haverford West, Martin Bridge?
2. Early LDS Church Wd/Br rcds #6940163, Call 104168, pr/out ?-no parents listed: B:4 apr 1857,
E: 23 Aug 1974 SL, SP: uncleared.
3. BIRTH,MARRIAGE,DEATH: Fam rcds of Thomas O Call [who Thomas O Call?], Robert P Wagner

--------from Pat Holling: censuses *
William N. Thomas was refered to in his wife's obituary as "Justice W. N.Thomas".

William married Elizabeth Lallis 26 Oct 1857, Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire, Wales, United Kingdom. Elizabeth (daughter of Richard Lallis and Dorothy Thomas) was born 26 Dec 1838, Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire, Wales, United Kingdom; was christened 13 Feb 1839, St Marys Parish,Haverfordwest,Pembrokeshire,S. Wales; died 19 May 1901, Logan, Cache, Utah, United States; was buried 21 May 1901, Paradise Cem, Paradise,Cache, Utah, USA. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• AFN: 1R4N-RQ

Notes:

1838 BIRTH: S WALES,Pembrokeshire,Haverfordwest: Elizabeth Lallis was born 26 Dec 1838, dau of Richard Lallis and Dorothy Thomas

1857 MARRIAGE: S.WALES,Pembrokeshire,Haverfordwest: William Nash Thomas married Elizabeth Lallis on 26 Oct 1857

c1862 HIST: UTAH,Cache,Paradise: Came to UTAH 5 yrs after married, lived there more than 20 years.

1870 CENSUS: UT,Cache-Paradise: Anc.com Im 243 pg 121, Dw# 34/33: Elizabeth Thomas age 32 born England, wife of William Thomas

1880 CENSUS: UT,Cache-Paradise: FHL film 1255335 pg 172c, 4 June, Dw #82/87: Elizabeth Thomas 41/Wales
(Wales,Wales) keep house, wife of William N Thomas

1900 CENSUS: UT,Cache Co-Logan, N.A. film T623 film 1682 Bk 1, pg 254, Dw #...: Elizabeth L Thomas 62/Wales, born Dec 1837 (10/13 children living), wife of William N. Thomas
1901 DEATH, BURIAL: UT,Cache,Logan: Elizabeth Lallis Thomas died 19 May 1901 after an illness for several weeks; buried 21 May 1901, Paradise Cemetery, Paradise,Cache,Utah



ACTION - CK OUT - Elizabeth Lallis:
1. IGI Batch #6940048, Call #087043. Early LDS Church Wd/Br rcds. Bap:4 Apr 1857, End:15 Nov 1974 OG, Sealed to Parents: Uncleared. No spouse listed.
IGI Batch #6940163, Call #104168. Early LDS Church Wd/Br rcds Cuffern Mtn, Pembroke, Wales. B:4 Apr 1857, E:19 Aug 1974 SL, SP: Unclered. Shows "Elizabeth Lalliss".
2. BIR,MG,DTH: Family records of Thomas O Call and Robert P Wagner

Notes:

1821 BIRTH: S Wales,Pembroke-Pembroke Dock: Thomas Obray born 23 July 1821. Born as Thomas Obray, he went by Thomas Lorenzo Obray after 2 stories: 1) laboring with Lorenzo Snow on mission in Malta, with Elder Snow's permission; 2) Elder Snow taught him the gospel, baptized him and named him Thomas Lorenzo Obray. Obray also spelled Aubrey.
Rcd of LDS Ward, Paradise UT: same: Bn Pembroke Dock-Parish Reg of St Mary, Pembroke, Pembroke, Wales
Rcds of John R & Lucille Bankhead, Ogden UT, July 2000: 23 Jul 1821-Pembroke Dock,Pembroke,Wales frm St Mary's Parish rcds, FHL film# 105196, Thomas only name on parish rcds, Lorenzo added after joined LDS Church.

1823 CHR/ORD: IGI-Ext rcds 1799-1875, #C082911, Film 105196, P/O Film 1238693: "Elinor" - mother, B-31 Mar 1979 OG,E-15 Jun 1979 OG,SP-21 Jan 1979 OG: 7 Jan 1823-St Mary's Parish, Pembroke, Pembroke,Wales
FGR of John R & Lucille Bankhead, July 2000: 7 Jan 1823-St Mary,Pembroke,Wales

1854 MG: 1854 #1-Louisa Shelton-md 24 Jun 1854, St Louis, St Louis, MO, SS: 13 Feb 1952
1854 #2-Martha Shelton-Rcds of John & Lucille Bankhead: md 2 Oct 1854 SLC, SS 28 May 1869 - Logan Temple, as no other SS verified, frm early Church information, FHL film #820143 & EHous rcd FHL flm# 183404
1854 #2-Martha Shelton-
(CK OUT-not know which marriage(s) refers to)Extracted marriage, Salt Lake Temple 1856-1866, #M183395. Also from FGR of Emma J Facer, gdau. sp #1-13 Feb 1952; #2-17 Oct 1855 EHous, #3-2 Aug 1857 Pres Ofc SLC,#4-30 Apr 1864 Ehous

1880 CENSUS: UT,Cache-Paradise: Anc.com pg 172, Dw# 85/90:
OBRAY, Thomas 54/Wales (Wales,Wales)-farmer; Caroline-wife 48/Eng (Eng,Eng);
B Samuel-sn 21/UT (Wales,Eng)wk farm; John-sn 19/UT (Wales,Eng)wk farm;
Joseph-sn 12/UT(",")-school; Ezra-sn 10/UT-school; Ida 7/UT-dau
Dw# 85/91: Ruth-wife 33/MO (Eng,Eng)-keep house; Rosary-dau 14/UT (Wales,MO)
home; Hannah-dau 12/UT (",")-school; Selina-dau 10/UT-school; Charles-sn 8/UT;
Ada-dau 6/UT; Eva-dau 4/UT; Caroline-dau 2/UT; Elizabeth 2/12-UT,May

1899 DEATH,BURIAL: Robert Wagner & John Bankhead (frm Tri-Weekly Journal, Logan UT 24 Oct 1899): dd21 Oct 1899, Paradise, Cache Co, UT; bur 24 Oct 1899, Paradise, Cache Co, UT.

HISTORY OF THOMAS LORENZO OBRAY:
Married first to Louisa Shelton in St. Louis, where she became sick and died 6 weeks later. She was buried in St. Louis. He then married her sister, Martha and they crossed the plains together. They had 7 children. In Utah, Pr. Brigham Young called them to Cache Valley, where he met his old sweetheart left in England, Caroline Branchley and married her. They also had 7 children. In 1861 (1864 on fam group sheet) he married Ruth Nuttle Bradshaw and had 14 children. Total of 28 children, all active in the Church and married in the Temple.

NOTES: Differences between story and family group records done by Emma Faser. Story says Martha had 7 children and Caroline Branchley had 7. On 2 group sheets the same children appear with Martha and with Caroline, except for one more, Hyrum, on Caroline's.

BIR,MGS,DTH,BUR,ORD: FGR self, LDS Biographical Encyclopedia: Md #1 Louisa Shelton 24 Jun 1854 SLC; md #2 Martha Shelton 3 Oct 1854 SLC-5 children; #3 Croline Brenchley 2 Aug 1857 SLC-9 children; #4 Ruth Nuttall Bradshaw 30 Apr 1864 SLC-14 children
History: Thomas served as Pres of Malta Mission 1852-1853. Missy in England in Kent Conference, presiding over that conference pt of time. Called to Malta 1 Nov 1851. Ordained HP, landed Malta May 1852, sent by Apostle Lorenzo Snow to preside over mission. Back to England for health, arriving 23 Apr 1853, ret'd Malta 19 Jun 1853. While absent, James F Bell acting pres. Elder Obray raised up branch of church in Malta, released Nov 1853, left Liverpool Eng for Utah 22 Mar 1854. Arrived Wellsville, Cache co, Utah 1856, one of first settlers there. Mission to England 1881-82. He was a farmer

ORD: Robert Wagner & John Bankhead (Sheerness Branch LDS rcds, FHL flm# 087031): bp 25 Sep 1844 (Sep 1845, Aug 1845?) Wales, Ordained HP 13 May 1849 SP: SLC-2 Jun 1920, frm SLC Temple rcds

All of the following from 2003 CD from Pat Holling: Thomas Lorenzo Obray had four wives, Ruth Nuttall, Louise Shelton, Martha Shelton, and Caroline Brenchley.

. Thomas served as president of the Malta Mission from 1852 to 1853. He labored as a missionary in England in the Kent Conference, presiding over that conference part of the time, and was called to fill a mission in Malta, November 1, 1851. After being ordained a High Priest, Elder Obray landed in Malta in May, 1852, having been sent by Apostle Lorenzo Snow to preside over the Malta Mission. He went back to England on account of his health, arriving there April 23, 1853, but returned to Malta, June19, 1853. While he was absent James F. Bell acted as president of the Malta Mission. Elder Obray raised up a branch of the Church in Malta, was released in November, 1853, and left Liverpool, England, March 22,1854, bound for Utah. After his arrival in Utah he settled in Wellsville, Cache Co., in 1856, being one of the first settlers in that place. He filled a mission to England in 1881-1882.

1880 CENSUS: UT,Cache Co-Paradise:FHL Film 1255335 N/A Film T9-1335,pg 172C
Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
Thomas OBRAY Self M M W 54 WALES
Occ: Farms Fa: WALES Mo: WALES
Caroline OBRAY Wife F M W 48 ENG
Occ: Keep House Fa: ENG Mo: ENG
B. Samuel OBRAY Son M S W 21 UT
Occ: Wk-Farm Fa: WALES Mo: ENG
John OBRAY Son M S W 19 UT
Occ: Wk-Farm Fa: WALES Mo: ENG
Joseph OBRAY Son M S W 12 UT
Occ: School Fa: WALES Mo: ENG
Ezra OBRAY Son M S W 10 UT
Occ: School Fa: WALES Mo: ENG
Ida OBRAY Dau F S W 7 UT
Fa: WALES Mo: ENG

CENSUS: 1910 Paradise, Cache Co., Utah
page 4B
Obray Thomas L 50 yrs b. Wales
Caroline 48 yrs b. Norway
Gerald 20 yrs b. UT
Alton 16 yrs b. UT
Bryan 13 yrs b. UT
Wallace 11 yrs b. UT
Vernon 7 yrs b. UT



NEWSPAPER: The following warranty deeds were filed for record on Saturday: Thomas L. Obray Sr., and wife to P.O. Hansen, 81.35 acres, Paradise farm realty, $3,000. Logan 25 April 1892

NEWSPAPER: The Standard --- Logan Utah
3 May 1892 edition
The following transfers were filed for record on Saturday: Townsite deed from Cache county to Thos. L. Obray for lots 4 and 5, block 28, plat A, Paradise survey. Logan 2 May 1892

Thomas married Ruth Nuttall Bradshaw 30 Apr 1864, Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States. Ruth (daughter of Charles Heald Bradshaw and Ann Nuttall) was born 14 Jun 1847, Manchester, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom; died 2 Nov 1916, Burley, Cassia, Idaho, United States; was buried 6 Nov 1916, Paradise, Cache, Utah, United States. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

BIR,MG,DTH,ORD: Rcds-Dean B Bradshaw,Robert P Wagner. Taken from mg certif, parents bir certif, childrens' temple rcds & Manchester Branch rcds. Endowment reconfirmed & all former sealings ratified-17 Sep 1968

NOTES: Birth dates vary for Ruth among family records: 29 Mar 1848, Sept 1844, 14 Jun 1847, 29 Mar 1847. Also Ord dates. Dean Bradshaw: bap: 17 Sep 1968 LG E: 30 Apr 1864, SP: 14 Jun 1958.

Notes:

1801 BIRTH: WALES,Pembrokeshire,Jordanston-Jordanston Bridge: David Thomas born 12 May 1801, son of John and Dinah Williams Thomas

1828 MARRIAGE: Wales, Pembrokeshire-Merlins Brdg, Harrolds. St. Is: David Thomas md Elizabeth Nash 30 Sep 1828

1866 HIST: Pioneers and Prominent Men of Utah, pg 974: "David Thomas and Elizabeth Nash of Neyland, Pembrokeshire, [David and children were pioneers-Elizabeth died in Wales] pioneers Sept.4, 1866, Thomas E. Ricks company"

1870 CENSUS: UT Ty,Cache Co-Paradise: Anc.com Img244, Roll M593_1610 pg 121-7/21Dw# 57/56:
THOMAS, David 69/Eng-farmer ($100)


CK OUT - David Thomas:
1. BIR,MG,DTH,ORD: Fam rcds: Evan Jones; TIB; Harreldston St. Issell's; LDS Haverfordwest; 1851 Census Haverfordwest.

David married Elizabeth Nash 30 Sep 1828, Merlin's Bridge, Pembrokeshire, Wales, United Kingdom. Elizabeth was born 25 May 1805, Steynton Parish, Denant, Pembrokeshire, Wales; died 16 Mar 1865, Llanstadwell Parish, Pembrokeshire, Wales, United Kingdom; was buried , Haniborro. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

1805 BIRTH: Wales,Pembrokeshire-Steynton Parish, Denant: Elizabeth Nash born 25 May 1805 to Thomas Nash anbd Lydia.... [Jr-ped sheet]

1828 MARRIAGE: Wales, Pembrokeshire-Merlins Brdg, Harrolds. St. Is: David Thomas md Elizabeth Nash 30 Sep 1828

1865 DEATH,BURIAL:So Wales,Pembrokeshire-Neyland: Elizabeth Nash Thomas died 16 March 1865; shows buried at Hanniboro Burial Grounds [Robert Wagner has picture of tombstone in Paradise Cemetery, showing David and Elizabeth on same stone.



CK OUT - Elizabeth Nash:
1. BIR,MG,DTH,ORD: Fam rcds: Evan Jones; TIB; Harreldston St. Issell's, LDS Haverfordwest, 1851 Census Haverfordwest. Bur Haniborro Bur Ground

Notes:

BIR,MG,DTH,ORD: Kareen Lalliss Knight family records, St Marys Parish
1799-1882, 1851 Haverfordwest Dist. Census 14527 F Wls 7 pt 57, p 122.

MG: IGI Batch #A537179, Call #537179,537180,53718,537182,537183. Temple
sealing record. SS: 15 Aug 1967 IF.

NOTES: Information came from Mrs. D. W. Knight, 791 Reed, Idaho Falls, Idaho.

Richard married Dorothy Thomas 11 May 1830, Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire, Wales, United Kingdom. Dorothy was born 17 Dec 1806, Keeson, Pembroke, , Wales; died 8 Mar 1841, Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire, Wales, United Kingdom. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

BIR,MG,DTH,ORD: Kareen Lalliss Knight family records, St Marys Parish
1799-1882, 1851 Haverfordwest Dist. Census 14527 F Wls 7 pt 57, p 122.
Shown as Dorthy or Dorothea.

MG: IGI Batch A537179, Call #537179-80,53718,537182-83. Temple sealing rcd.

Notes:

1792 BIR: Rcds of M, Eugene Hecker 1998: 1792, Rhosmarket, Pembroke Dock, Pembroke, Wales
FGR of John and Lucille Bankhead, Ogden UT: 1792/1793, Rhosmarket, Pembroke, Pembroke, Wales, from Logan Temple Rcds of ord done by Thomas L Obray FHL flm# 177955 pg 9 #399 (also shown as Awbrey)

1812 MG: Rcds of M, Eugene Hecker 1998: Md Eleanor Allen 20 April 1812, Steynton, Pembroke, Wales SS: 11 June 1884-Logan
FGR of John and Lucille Bankhead, Ogden UT: same, frm Parish rcd, FHL flm# 105209

1845 DTH,BUR: Rcds of M, Eugene Hecker 1998: 12 Dec 1845, Krug St, Pembroke Dock, Pembroke, Wales, bur St Marys Parish, Pembroke, Pembroke, Wales Dec 1845
FGR of John and Lucille Bankhead, Ogden UT: St Mary, Pembroke Dock, Pembroke, S Wales, frm certif, gen registers Ofc, London, England; bur 14 Dec 1845, St Marys, Pembroke, Pembroke, Wales, from St Mary Parish register, FHL flm# 105196

NOTES: Bad copy but looks like Marella Hecker, 1020 E Carson St, Long Beach CA, mother of Eugene

CK OUT: Shows Marriage to Caroline Eliza Henningson 11 May 1882 SLC. IGI-Ext rcd 1878-1889, Batch #M183402, Call #183402. SS: 11 May 1882 SL.

BIR,MG,DTH,BUR,ORD: AFN:2JV9-R2 shows bn Rhosmarket, dd Kings, md Steynton
ORD: John & Lucille Bankhead: bapt 10 Jun 1884-Logan, rest the same as M & Eugene Hecker


From Pat Holling 2003: From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.

John married Eleanor Allen 20 Apr 1812, Steynton, Pembrokeshire, Wales, United Kingdom. Eleanor was born 6 May 1789, Peter Market, Pembroke, Wales; was christened 9 May 1789, St Marys Parish, Pembroke Dock, Pembroke, Wales; died 3 Dec 1848, Miles End, Sheerness, Kent, England; was buried 8 Dec 1848, Miles End, Sheerness, Kent, England. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

1789 BIR: Records of M. Hecker, dau of Richard Allen & Dorothy: 6 May 1789, Peter Market,Pembroke,Wales
Rcds of John & Lucille Bankhead, Jul 2000: bn Pater, Pembroke, Pembroke, Wales (Logan Temple rcds by Thomas L Obray, June 1884);

1789 CHR: WALES,Pembroke,Pembroke-St Marys: Rcds of M. Hecker: Eleanor Allen christened 9 May 1789
Rcds of John & Lucille Bankhead, Jul 2000: 6 May 1789, St Marys, Pembroke, Pembroke, Wales, from St Marys Parish reg, FHL flm# 105196 and correspondence

1812 MG: Records of M. Hecker: 20 Apr 1812, Steynton, Pembroke, Wales, SS 11 Jun 1884-Logan
Rcds of John & Lucille Bankhead, Jul 2000: same, frm Parish Reg, Steynton, Pembroke, Wales, FHL film #105209: SS-same from Logan Temple Rcds

1848 DTH,BUR: ENGLAND,Kent Co,Sheerness-Mile Down: Records of M. Hecker: Eleanor Allen Obray died 3 Dec 1848, Miles End or Miles Town, Sheerness, Kent, England; buried 8 Dec 1848, Miles End or Miles Town, Sheerness, Kent, England

ORD: Records of M. Hecker: Bpt Sep 1884; End 11 Jun 1848, Logan; SP 4 Mar 1950-Logan.
Rcds of John & Lucille Bankhead, Jul 2000: Bapt redone, as cd not find original date: 28 Jan 1965-Logan Temple; Endow 11 Jun 1848-Logan; SP 4 Feb 1950-Logan.

NOTES: Hard to read but looks like Maulla Hecker, 1020 E Carson St, Long Beach, California.

BIR,MG,DTH,BUR: AFN:2JV9-S7 shows bn Pater, Pembroke, Wales; ch St Mary, Pembroke Dock, Pembroke, Wales

Notes:

BIR,MG,DTH,ORD: Records of Dean B Bradshaw and Robert P Wagner, from Mg cert,
Parents birth certif, childrens' temple records, Manchester Branch recds.

NOTES: Name and address on family group sheet:
Lillian Davidson, 6160 570 East, Murray Utah 89107 (in Bob's hand)

Charles married Ann Nuttall 1 Aug 1841, Manchester, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom. Ann was born 1819 OR 1820, Manchester, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom; died 20 Jul 1854, on plains; was buried Jul 1854. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

BIR,MG,DTH,ORD: Records of Dean B Bradshaw and Robert P Wagner. Taken from
marriage certificate, parents birth certificates, childrens' temple records
and Mancester Branch records. Dau of Thomas Nuttall and ...

24 Apr 2004 Email from Pat Holling: Dear Pam & Robert, Just wanted to share with you the new info sent to me regarding the father of Ann Nuttall who Married Charles Heald Bradshaw…
I don’t know if you already had this info but it was new to me… sent to me by Nedra Smith Who also descends from Ann & Charles… I have forgotten how at the moment… Anyway she has been researching and found the marriage record for Ann Nuttall & Charles Heald Bradshaw… the marriage record shows the father of Ann Nuttall to be Haman Nuttall not Thomas Nuttall.. I had Thomas Nuttall which I think came from grandma’s family history records… I don’t know where she Got the name Thomas as it was not documented… however… in searching for Haman Nuttall
We find that his father was Thomas… I’ll paste the notes below for you… Hope all is well… have a great evening..
Love, Pat
------Note from Nedra Smith... a descendant of Ann Nuttall who is doing research on this line varified from the film 0438202 that the father of Ann Nuttal who married Charles Heald Bradshaw was indeed Haman Nuttall not Thomas Nuttall... her note as follows: [referenced is a marriage record on the film...] "It came from 'clarence 1959'. He was researching Ann Nuttall who married Charles Heald Bradshaw. He indicated on film 0438202 shows her father as Haman Nuttall, chr 17 Apr 1780, St. Mary, Bury, Lancashire, Eng. His father was Thomas. " Nedra Smith [nwaks@mstar2.net]
Info passed down from Martha Jane Thomas / Marcus William Holling records show father of Ann Nuttall as Thomas Nuttall... born about 1793 resided in .

CHRISTENING: IGI entry...Haman Nuttall born 25 March 1789, Chr. 17 Apr 1789 Saint Mary, Bury, Lancashire, England
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I forgot to include this reference with the info I just sent… film # 0438202 page 109 entry #337. Witnesses were Thomas Bradshaw and Sarah Bradshaw. Pat Holling, La Center, Washington USA